Does Conda replace the need for virtualenv?

I recently discovered Conda after I was having trouble installing SciPy, specifically on a Heroku app that I am developing.

With Conda you create environments, very similar to what virtualenv does. My questions are:

1. If I use Conda will it replace the need for virtualenv? If not, how do I use the two together? Do I install virtualenv in Conda, or Conda in virtualenv?
2. Do I still need to use pip? If so, will I still be able to install packages with pip in an isolated environment?

1. Conda replaces virtualenv. In my opinion it is better. It is not limited to Python but can be used for other languages too. In my experience it provides a much smoother experience, especially for scientific packages. The first time I got MayaVi properly installed on Mac was with conda.

2. You can still use pip. In fact, conda installs pip in each new environment. It knows about pip-installed packages.

For example:

conda list

lists all installed packages in your current environment. Conda-installed packages show up like this:

sphinx_rtd_theme          0.1.7                    py35_0    defaults

and the ones installed via pip have the <pip> marker:

wxpython-common           3.0.0.0                   <pip>

Short answer is, you only need conda.

1. Conda effectively combines the functionality of pip and virtualenv in a single package, so you do not need virtualenv if you are using conda.

2. You would be surprised how many packages conda supports. If it is not enough, you can use pip under conda.

Here is a link to the conda page comparing conda, pip and virtualenv:

https://docs.conda.io/projects/conda/en/latest/commands.html#conda-vs-pip-vs-virtualenv-commands.

I use both and (as of Jan, 2020) they have some superficial differences that lend themselves to different usages for me. By default Conda prefers to manage a list of environments for you in a central location, whereas virtualenv makes a folder in the current directory. The former (centralized) makes sense if you are e.g. doing machine learning and just have a couple of broad environments that you use across many projects and want to jump into them from anywhere. The latter (per project folder) makes sense if you are doing little one-off projects that have completely different sets of lib requirements that really belong more to the project itself.

The empty environment that Conda creates is about 122MB whereas the virtualenv's is about 12MB, so that's another reason you may prefer not to scatter Conda environments around everywhere.

Finally, another superficial indication that Conda prefers its centralized envs is that (again, by default) if you do create a Conda env in your own project folder and activate it the name prefix that appears in your shell is the (way too long) absolute path to the folder. You can fix that by giving it a name, but virtualenv does the right thing by default.

I expect this info to become stale rapidly as the two package managers vie for dominance, but these are the trade-offs as of today :)

EDIT: I reviewed the situation again in 04/2021 and it is unchanged. It's still awkward to make a local directory install with conda.

Virtual Environments and pip

I will add that creating and removing conda environments is simple with Anaconda.

> conda create --name <envname> python=<version> <optional dependencies>

> conda remove --name <envname> --all 

In an activated environment, install packages via conda or pip:

(envname)> conda install <package>

(envname)> pip install <package>

These environments are strongly tied to conda's pip-like package management, so it is simple to create environments and install both Python and non-Python packages.

Jupyter

In addition, installing ipykernel in an environment adds a new listing in the Kernels dropdown menu of Jupyter notebooks, extending reproducible environments to notebooks. As of Anaconda 4.1, nbextensions were added, adding extensions to notebooks more easily.

Reliability

In my experience, conda is faster and more reliable at installing large libraries such as numpy and pandas. Moreover, if you wish to transfer your the preserved state of an environment, you can do so by sharing or cloning an env.