According to Wikipedia, y’all’dn’t’ve is a valid contraction.

I am having difficulty pronouncing the L-D-N-T-V consonant cluster, especially since there is no vowel at the end (silent E). Y’all’dn’t’ve any advice or audio samples would you?


Solution 1:

I'd say this contraction of "you all would not have" as three syllables: [ˈjɔːɫ.ᵈn̩.tɘ̆v].

  1. [ˈjɔːɫ] is y'all, a contraction of you all that serves as the plural of you in Dixie-influenced dialects of American English. The l with a tilde represents a "dark" l, which I realize with pharyngealization (secondary constriction in the throat) and some other speakers may realize with velarization.
  2. [ᵈn̩] denotes a pre-stopped nasal, as in the Russian names Dnieper and Dniester. The tick mark below the n denotes a syllabic consonant. It is the same as the last syllable of redden.
  3. [tɘ̆v] has a slightly raised schwa in the middle, roughly like the last syllable of infinitive except not quite as fronted. The cup-shaped breve mark over the vowel marks it as extra-short.

Solution 2:

As an American Southerner, I had a good laugh when I read this.

Depending on where you're from, this could either be incredibly easy or nigh impossible to pronounce.

Look at the words 'didn't' and 'hadn't,' first of all. In a Southern U.S. dialect especially, the 'd' in the middle of these words is soft, unlike the initial hard consonant of 'don't' or 'drive,' much like 'fiddle' (meaning violin in a bluegrass context) in the same dialect.

Y'all is actually spoken more like 'yaw' as in yawn.

The 've is essentially 'of,' pronounced the same as the first syllable in oven. In context, it would very likely be pronounced as a simple 'uh,' similar to 'woulda, coulda, shoulda.'

So in the end, you get something like 'yawna' or 'yawdna.' This isn't exactly correct, but it's quite close.

Again, if you are a Northerner, Midwesterner, Canadian, Australian, or British, this may still not adequately explain how to pronounce this contraction.

I would suggest listening to someone like Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy speak for awhile. Then, you should have an easier time imagining how this is pronounced.

Solution 3:

I think most native English speakers would have similar troubles. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Also, different people will say this different ways: somebody from Virginia (like me) will say it differently from somebody from Mississippi, who will say it differently from somebody from Texas.

But if you're curious, I'd start with the words that it's contracting:

  • "You all would not have" shortens to "Y'all wouldn't have"
  • "Y'all wouldn't have" shortens to "Y'all wouldn't've" - practice saying that out loud a few times.
  • "Y'all wouldn't've" finally gets shortened to "y’all’dn’t’ve" - it's like what you were just practicing, just without the "woul" part.

Another way to look at it:

  • Start with "would not have" and shorten that to "wouldn't've"
  • Take out the W and shorten it to sound like "ooldn't've"
  • Change the "ool" sound into an "all" sound: "all'dn't've"
  • Add a "y" sound at the beginning: "y'all'dn't've"

In other words, you're having trouble with the L-D-N-T-V part because you need the Y-A part, or at least the A part, before the L sound to really blend the sounds together.

Phonetically, I'd pronounce it yalldintuv. But realistically, I don't know anybody who would say this in real life.

Solution 4:

In the South the phrase "Y'all would not have . . . " would most commonly be pronounced "Yaw woot nuh" with woot rhyming with foot. "Y'all would not have done that" = "Yaw woot nuh dun nat."

Solution 5:

If the uncontracted expression starts as "you all would not have ..." the natural progression would be

  • "y'all woudn't have" /jal wødnt hæv/ (with syllabic 'n'). This is exceedingly formal.
  • "y'all woudn't of" /jal wødntuv/. The 'd' is more like a alveolar flap (like the American 't' in 'writer')
  • "y'all woudn't've" /jal wødnəv/.
  • "y'all woudna" /jal wødnə/. This is the most...relaxed/informal, and probably the pronunciation you should be looking for.

In the end, the 'y'all' isn't smushed into the rest. It's a separately enunciated word.

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