In general, why is the product topology not equal to the box topology

I am trying to understand a counter-example showing that the box topology and product topology are not equal. Here it is:

Let $\tau$ and $\tau'$ be the product and box topologies respectively. Let $X_i = \mathbb{R}\ \forall i$ and let $U_i = (-1,1)\ \forall i$. Then $U:= \prod_{i=1}^{\infty}U_i$ and $U \in \tau'$ but $U \notin \tau$.

I don't understand why $U \notin \tau$.

Any insight would be appreciated!


Solution 1:

The other answers have covered this in a way, but I thought it would be better to make it explicit.

The box topology on $\Pi_i X_i$ is the topology generated by the basis of open sets of the form $\Pi_i U_i$, where $U_i\subset X_i$ is open for each $i$.

The product topology on $\Pi_iX_i$ is the topology generated by the basis of open sets of the form $\Pi_i U_i$, where $U_i\subset X_i$ is open for each $i$ and where $U_i=X_i$ for all but finitely many $i$.

Why do we define the product topology in this strange way, rather than use the more natural seeming box topology? The reason is that we want the continuous maps $Y\to\Pi_i X_i$ to be precisely those maps $f=(f_i\colon Y\to X_i)$ such that each component $f_i$ is continuous. Now in the box topology, we can have a colllection of continuous maps $f_i\colon Y\to X_i$ such that $f_i$ is continuous for each $i$, but the map $$ f=(f_i)_i\colon Y\to\Pi_iX_i $$ is not continuous. For example, let $f$ be the 'identity' map from $\Pi_iX_i$ with the product topology to $\Pi_iX_i$ with the box topology. There are sets that are open in the box topology that are not open in the product topology, so this map is not continuous. But each component of the map $f$ is projection on to one of the factors, so is continuous.

Looking at your example, we may define a function $f$ from $\mathbb R$ to $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty \mathbb R$ by setting $f(x)=(x, 2x, 3x, \dots)$. If we endow $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty\mathbb R$ with the box topology, then this map is not continuous, even though each factor $x\mapsto x,x\mapsto 2x,x\mapsto 3x,\dots$ is a continuous map.

Why is it not continuous? Well, as you said in your question, $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty (-1,1)$ is an open set in $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty$ in the box topology. But the preimage of this set under $f$ is $\{0\}$, since for any $x\ne 0$, there will be some $n$ such that $nx\not\in(-1,1)$.

Now, if we had endowed $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty\mathbb R$ with the product topology instead, we would not have run into this trouble, because $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty(-1,1)$ is not open in the product topology. Indeed, the map $f$ is continuous in the product topology.

Why is that? It suffices to check that the preimage of any basic open subset is open. Let $U=\Pi_{i=1}^\infty U_i$ be open in $\Pi_{i=1}^\infty \mathbb R$. Then $U_i=\mathbb R$ for all but finitely many $i$, so there is some $N$ such that $U_i=\mathbb R$ for all $n> N$. We may therefore write

$$ U=\Pi_{i=1}^N U_i\times\Pi_{i=N+1}^\infty\mathbb R $$

The preimage of this set under $f$ is just the set of all $x\in\mathbb R$ such that $x\in U_1, 2x\in U_2, \dots, Nx\in U_N$. This can be written as the intersection of finitely many open sets, so it is open.


To conclude, even though the definition of the product topology is (slightly) more complicated than that of the box topology, we use it more often because it is much better behaved. For example, we can show that the product of compact spaces - endowed with the product topology - is compact, while the same is not true if we endow the product with the box topology.

Solution 2:

Here is one way. Consider the element $x $ with $x_i=0$ for all $i $. The product topology is pointwise convergence. So if we define $x^k $ by $$ x^k_i=\begin {cases} 0,&\ i\leq k\\ i,&\ i>k\end {cases} $$ we have that $x^k\to x $.

If $U$ were open, for $k $ big enough we would have $x^k\in U $, which is not the case. So $U $ is not open.