"There are more than one people" or "There is more than one people"? [duplicate]

Given the following two sentences.

  • There are more than one people.
  • There is more than one people.

Which one of them is grammatical, both of them, any one of them or none of them? The noun people (presumably collective) is generally plural. Therefore, the former sentence seems to be correct (this is usually the case in my local languages).

It is something similar to the case, where zero is (mostly) considered plural though intuitively it should be singular. Moreover, it should be safe to say, there is more than one person instead of saying, there are more than one person. but I'm not sure about people, when used in such constructs. Sorry for this simple question :)


Solution 1:

You could only use people here as a countable word, which is not how it is usually used.

In this case you are not referring to "people" as a group of individuals, but to "a people" as a groups of specific individuals sharing an ethnic, historical, religious, cultural or geographical background.

In that case, you treat people exactly like you would treat person or car:

There is more than one car.
There is more than one person.
There is more than one people.

It is very important to understand you are talking about peoples in that case!

If you do not mean "peoples" as in "populations" (Germans, Dutch, Americans), you cannot use "more than one", since people is then uncountable, like water or stuff:

*There is more than one water.
*There is more than one stuff.
*There is more than one people.

These sentences are (usually) incorrect unless you do actually mean to imply the countable versions!