Different results when using numpy seed [duplicate]
What does np.random.seed do in the below code from a Scikit-Learn tutorial? I'm not very familiar with NumPy's random state generator stuff, so I'd really appreciate a layman's terms explanation of this.
np.random.seed(0)
indices = np.random.permutation(len(iris_X))
np.random.seed(0) makes the random numbers predictable
>>> numpy.random.seed(0) ; numpy.random.rand(4)
array([ 0.55, 0.72, 0.6 , 0.54])
>>> numpy.random.seed(0) ; numpy.random.rand(4)
array([ 0.55, 0.72, 0.6 , 0.54])
With the seed reset (every time), the same set of numbers will appear every time.
If the random seed is not reset, different numbers appear with every invocation:
>>> numpy.random.rand(4)
array([ 0.42, 0.65, 0.44, 0.89])
>>> numpy.random.rand(4)
array([ 0.96, 0.38, 0.79, 0.53])
(pseudo-)random numbers work by starting with a number (the seed), multiplying it by a large number, adding an offset, then taking modulo of that sum. The resulting number is then used as the seed to generate the next "random" number. When you set the seed (every time), it does the same thing every time, giving you the same numbers.
If you want seemingly random numbers, do not set the seed. If you have code that uses random numbers that you want to debug, however, it can be very helpful to set the seed before each run so that the code does the same thing every time you run it.
To get the most random numbers for each run, call numpy.random.seed(). This will cause numpy to set the seed to a random number obtained from /dev/urandom or its Windows analog or, if neither of those is available, it will use the clock.
For more information on using seeds to generate pseudo-random numbers, see wikipedia.
If you set the np.random.seed(a_fixed_number) every time you call the numpy's other random function, the result will be the same:
>>> import numpy as np
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> perm = np.random.permutation(10)
>>> print perm
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.rand(4)
[0.5488135 0.71518937 0.60276338 0.54488318]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.rand(4)
[0.5488135 0.71518937 0.60276338 0.54488318]
However, if you just call it once and use various random functions, the results will still be different:
>>> import numpy as np
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> perm = np.random.permutation(10)
>>> print perm
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> np.random.seed(0)
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[2 8 4 9 1 6 7 3 0 5]
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[3 5 1 2 9 8 0 6 7 4]
>>> print np.random.permutation(10)
[2 3 8 4 5 1 0 6 9 7]
>>> print np.random.rand(4)
[0.64817187 0.36824154 0.95715516 0.14035078]
>>> print np.random.rand(4)
[0.87008726 0.47360805 0.80091075 0.52047748]
As noted, numpy.random.seed(0) sets the random seed to 0, so the pseudo random numbers you get from random will start from the same point. This can be good for debuging in some cases. HOWEVER, after some reading, this seems to be the wrong way to go at it, if you have threads because it is not thread safe.
from differences-between-numpy-random-and-random-random-in-python:
For numpy.random.seed(), the main difficulty is that it is not thread-safe - that is, it's not safe to use if you have many different threads of execution, because it's not guaranteed to work if two different threads are executing the function at the same time. If you're not using threads, and if you can reasonably expect that you won't need to rewrite your program this way in the future, numpy.random.seed() should be fine for testing purposes. If there's any reason to suspect that you may need threads in the future, it's much safer in the long run to do as suggested, and to make a local instance of the numpy.random.Random class. As far as I can tell, random.random.seed() is thread-safe (or at least, I haven't found any evidence to the contrary).
example of how to go about this:
from numpy.random import RandomState
prng = RandomState()
print prng.permutation(10)
prng = RandomState()
print prng.permutation(10)
prng = RandomState(42)
print prng.permutation(10)
prng = RandomState(42)
print prng.permutation(10)
may give:
[3 0 4 6 8 2 1 9 7 5]
[1 6 9 0 2 7 8 3 5 4]
[8 1 5 0 7 2 9 4 3 6]
[8 1 5 0 7 2 9 4 3 6]
Lastly, note that there might be cases where initializing to 0 (as opposed to a seed that has not all bits 0) may result to non-uniform distributions for some few first iterations because of the way xor works, but this depends on the algorithm, and is beyond my current worries and the scope of this question.
I have used this very often in neural networks. It is well known that when we start training a neural network we randomly initialise the weights. The model is trained on these weights on a particular dataset. After number of epochs you get trained set of weights.
Now suppose you want to again train from scratch or you want to pass the model to others to reproduce your results, the weights will be again initialised to a random numbers which mostly will be different from earlier ones. The obtained trained weights after same number of epochs ( keeping same data and other parameters ) as earlier one will differ. The problem is your model is no more reproducible that is every time you train your model from scratch it provides you different sets of weights. This is because the model is being initialized by different random numbers every time.
What if every time you start training from scratch the model is initialised to the same set of random initialise weights? In this case your model could become reproducible. This is achieved by numpy.random.seed(0). By mentioning seed() to a particular number, you are hanging on to same set of random numbers always.
I hope to give a really short answer:
seed make (the next series) random numbers predictable. You can think every time after you call seed, it pre-defines series numbers and numpy random keeps the iterator of it, then every time you get a random number it just gonna call get next.
e.g.:
np.random.seed(2)
np.random.randn(2) # array([-0.41675785, -0.05626683])
np.random.randn(1) # array([-1.24528809])
np.random.seed(2)
np.random.randn(1) # array([-0.41675785])
np.random.randn(2) # array([-0.05626683, -1.24528809])
You can notice when I set the same seed, no matter how many random number you request from numpy each time, it always gives the same series of numbers, in this case which is array([-0.41675785, -0.05626683, -1.24528809]).