RAM disks - can I use APFS and/or compression?

I use a 200MB Ram disk to write some throwaway files that I use repeatedly but can forget from run to run and don't mind losing on a shutdown. I often run out of space however and have to clean house.

This comes from a typical recommendation to mount a RAM disk until Macos:

can I use APFS instead? Would there be much benefit in a Ramdisk? Would it compress?
can I activate compression by default? I am dumping out a bunch of throw-away diagnostic HTML files that would take a lot less space if there was transparent file system compression like you can do on NTFS.

                  old-school, what about APFS?
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diskutil erasevolume HFS+ 'RAMDisk' `hdiutil attach -nomount ram://409600`

Diskutil itself doesn't help much:

Not one mention of APFS.

$ diskutil erasevolume -h

Usage:  diskutil eraseVolume format name MountPoint|DiskIdentifier|DeviceNode
Erase a single disk partition or whole, laying down a new file system volume
that will be empty of files. Format is the specific file system personality
name of the new volume, e.g. "Journaled HFS+" or a common alias e.g. "jhfs+".
Name is the new volume name (subject to file system naming restrictions) or
can be specified as %noformat% to skip initialization (to skip newfs). You
cannot erase the boot volume. A pseudo-format of "free" or "Free Space" will
remove the partition altogether, leaving a free space gap in the partition map.
Ownership of the affected disk is required.
Examples: diskutil eraseVolume JHFS+ UntitledHFS /Volumes/SomeDisk
          diskutil eraseVolume "Journaled HFS+" FooWholeVolEgRaid disk7
          diskutil eraseVolume ms-dos FOO disk0s5
          diskutil eraseVolume free free disk0s5

Not much documentation from Apple - it's terminal stuff.

Looking at man page we still only have old file systems.

Here's what using the GUI has to say:

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Compressed Disk Images. what's that?

I have also seen the term compressed disk image with regards to macos. Does it have any relevance here?

giving it a try didn't help much:

Mount a 50MB

diskutil erasevolume APFS 'ram2'hdiutil attach -nomount ram://102400``

output: No clear error, but no disk either:

Started erase on disk2
Unmounting disk
Erasing
Mounting disk
Could not mount disk2 after erase 👈 not good
Finished erase on disk2

ls /Volumes doesn't show a ram2 disk

total 0
drwxr-xr-x+  4 root  wheel  128 Feb 26 16:03 .
drwxr-xr-x  28 root  wheel  896 Sep 30 13:10 ..
lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel    1 Feb  8 12:51 MacHD -> /
drwxrwxr-x   8 jluc  staff  340 Feb 14 23:01 RAMDisk 👈 existing one

Solution 1:

@klanomath has the correct command in the comments above.

diskutil partitionDisk $(hdiutil attach -nomount ram://SIZE) 1 GPTFormat APFS 'RAMDisk' '100%'

My results:

$ diskutil partitionDisk $(hdiutil attach -nomount ram://12128430) 1 GPTFormat APFS 'RAMDisk' '100%'
Started partitioning on disk15
Unmounting disk
Creating the partition map
Waiting for partitions to activate
Formatting disk15s2 as APFS with name RAMDisk
Mounting disk
Finished partitioning on disk15
/dev/disk15 (disk image):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        +6.2 GB     disk15
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk15s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk16        6.0 GB     disk15s2

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Solution 2:

@klanomath's answer will work, but it's needlessly complicated. There's no need for a RAM disk to have partitions, or a partitioning table, or an EFI boot partition. (Go ahead, try booting from a RAM disk! I'll wait.)

All that's needed here is a partitionless disk image, formatted in APFS and consisting of a single APFS container, enclosing a single APFS volume. That's easy with the "diskutil apfs create" verb. Furthermore, we should add a tweak to prevent macOS from wasting cycles trying to Spotlight-index that volume. Putting those two things together yields the following single command line (note that I'm using "SIZE" as a placeholder):

 diskutil apfs create $(hdiutil attach -nomount ram://SIZE) RAMDisk && touch /Volumes/RAMDisk/.metadata_never_index

That's it. "SIZE" will be the integer number of 512-byte blocks you want the RAM disk to comprise. For example, a RAM disk of 1GiB (1,073,741,824 bytes) would be specified with the number "2097152" (without the quote marks).