Why am I finding Javascript/jQuery so difficult to get right?

1) It seems to violate a number of traditional programming principles (e.g. variable scope)

You need to declare variables using var, else it will go into the global scope.

2) Undefined variables seem to appear out of nowhere and already have values associated with them (how did this happen?)

This is possibly related to 1) and/or 4).

3) There seems to be bunch of random rules (e.g. return false to stop a default action, but sometimes this doesn't work?)

You need to let the handler return false as well. E.g. form onsubmit="return functionname()". You also need to return from the "main" function, not only from a closure (a function inside a function), referring to your previous question. It would only return into the "main" function and continue on.

4) Non-deterministic behavior when debugging. (e.g. I refresh the browser, try something and get result X for JS variables I'm watching in Firebug. I refresh again and I get result Y?)

Probably the code was executed before the HTML DOM was finished populating. You need to hook on window.onload or $(document).ready() whenever you want to execute stuff during page load.

5) Very messy looking code that is hard to follow. What happens when? I'm using Firebug and Chrome Developer Tools, but I'm not getting enough visibility.

I bet that you're talking about jQuery source? It's just a large library. You should after all not worry about this when debugging. Rather worry about your own code. However, make sure that you're looking at the unminified version of jQuery's source code.


See also:

  • JavaScript: the bad parts
  • What should every JavaScript programmer know

Douglas Crockford's "Javascript: The Good Parts" was an invaluable resource. Javascript plays a lot more like Lua, Lisp, or Python than C, it just happens to LOOK like C.

Link provided to Amazon; I snagged mine from O'Reilly.


To be honest, I think you have a good understanding. Some of my hangups were similar. The way that I have been moving on is "well, if that's the way it is, then that's the way it is". Just accept the idiosyncrasies and plow forward. PHP does some of the same things (variables can show up out of nowhere, etc...). Just code the way you want to code and if it works, then great!

Then after you get to that point start breaking out the profiler and see if there's anything that you can optimize.

Here are a couple of things:

If you understand CSS, then jQuery selectors should be easy. As far as the code goes, that's straightforward too if you can deal with chaining and JSON. EDIT: also, the jQuery documentation on everything is EXCELLENT! And There is no shortage of jQuery experts here on SO to help us noobs (and hopefully we can return the favor for newer noobs).

There is a scope to work with. (Basically) anything written outside of a function or object is in global scope. If you are inside of an object or function and use var then that sets the variable's scope

Javascript isn't like a C-based language (C++ or PHP even). It uses prototypes to deal with class/object relationships rather than a subclassing scheme.

The #1 thing that threw me for a loop is that any JS that appears anywhere on the page or that was included in <script> tags is fair game. If you have a global variable in one script, you can use that same variable in a completely different script and it will work. That may be what you mean about variables showing up out of nowhere. Also, there are some DOM based variables that can just "show up" too.

Anyways, I think that if you just plow ahead, you'll get some "AHA" moments. I'm a relative noob to programming, but I continually grow as long as I don't hang up on something that doesn't have too much of an impact on actually making the code run.


  1. It's a language based on prototypal inheritance and is influenced by functional programming languages and the paradigm so it isn't completely just OO/Procedural like other languages. Variables are implied globals unless declared with var.

  2. Please include an example?

  3. return false exits out of the function as with any language's return statement. preventDefault() would be the DOM method to cancel the default behaviour of a link

  4. Javascript is used primarily on the client side. Since there are many user agents, each of them have a different implementation of the DOM, which is very inconsistent, moreso than JS itself. Again, please include a real example to get a definitive answer.

  5. You'll find messy looking code in any language, and maybe your lack of understanding perceives the code as messy, when in fact it isn't so bad. Or maybe you're looking at some minified/obfuscated code.

I recommend http://eloquentjavascript.net/ for learning aspects of Javascript.

Things you'll learn from the link above

  • lambdas
  • closures
  • Prototypal inheritance
  • Event based programming
  • Debugging
  • DOM

"JavaScript: The Good Parts" by Douglas Crockford is a good start

In your case, the appendices ("the bad parts" and "the awful parts") might be the most interesting :)