What debuffs are available for temporarily reducing SPECIAL stats?

If you pick up the You're SPECIAL! book to gain +1 to any SPECIAL stat while a stat is already at 10, you normally won't be able to pick that stat. You will be forced to pick a stat that is at 9 or lower. So you normally can't use the book to go from 10 to 11 in a stat.

However I tested how the book works with stats that are affected by a de-buff because this would reportedly enable you to get the stat bonus even if the base stat is 10. Here's what I did and what happened:

  1. When I just took the book with 10 base intelligence and no int modifiers I could not pick Intelligence as the stat to increase.
  2. If I have 10 in Intelligence, drank some Whiskey to temporarily reduce my INT to 9 and then took the book, I was able to pick Intelligence to increase. When the duration of the Whiskey ended my total base INT was at 11.

So, what ways do we have to temporarily decrease each stat by at least 1 point in order for this to work with all stats? I would like to compile a list that at least covers each SPECIAL stat, without console commands.


Solution 1:

One surefire way to get SPECIAL stat debuffs is to get addicted to a chem and go into withdrawal.

Below is a list of which chems produce a debuff to each special stat, and how much if not just -1. This is based on the screenshot Pierre-Luc Pineault put up in his excellent answer to "How many chem addictions are in Fallout 4?"

Something else relevant to note from that post, is that combination drugs like Bufftats addict you to the drug indicated by the prefix. Buffout, in the case of Bufftats.

  • Strength: Psycho, X-Cell, Fury, Buffout, Overdrive
  • Perception: X-Cell, Calmex (-2), Fury, Daddy-O
  • Endurance: X-Cell, Buffout
  • Charisma: X-Cell, Daytripper, Mentats, Alcohol
  • Intelligence: X-Cell, Daddy-O
  • Agility: X-Cell, Calmex (-2), Overdrive, Med-X, Alcohol
  • Luck: X-Cell

Solution 2:

This list is not exhaustive but should work for most:

  • Strength: Daytripper
  • Perception: Fury, Drugged water from HalluciGen*
  • Endurance: Buffout addiction
  • Charisma: Daddy-O
  • Intelligence: Alcohol of any kind. For example Whiskey.
  • Agility: Med-X addiction, Overdrive addiction, Calmex addiction
  • Luck: Daytripper addiction, or equip Tattered Rags**

It should also be noted that X-Cell addiction will debuff ALL stats by -1


* Drugged Water from Hallucigen gives a stackable -1 PER de-buff
** Tattered Rags have a hidden -1 LCK de-buff

Solution 3:

I just tried it. Using addiction debuff along with the SPECIAL cheat does not work. I tried this for strength, endurance, and agility with no result. What does work is using the chems that have an immediate stat reduction such as Day Tripper and Fury. This will only work for strength, charisma, intelligence, and perception, but using the proper chems and the SPECIAL cheat will work. Then you can get the bobblehead for another further +1. You can always take the perk based bonuses such as Solar Powered and Night Person as well, but until the DLC and mods come out that is the best I think anyone can do who has an Xbox One or PS4.